On September 18, 2010, F wrote, Could you share a couple of rejection letters that you received for Ella Enchanted? It would be great to see, and serve as great encouragement, too.
And on the same day Andi wrote, I second F's idea with the rejection letters. Or perhaps just a blog post on how to deal with getting them/how to fix the problems in queries?
I can’t answer the query question because mostly I sent out entire manuscripts - this was long ago, and you still could. I did send queries for Ella Enchanted, but in my recollection they were very basic, not much more than “Here are x number (I don’t remember how many) of chapters of my fantasy novel. Please let me know if you’d like to see the whole book.”
Ella Enchanted was rejected only once, and I’m not sure there was a letter. I think the rejecting editor just called my agent and passed on the book. However, as many of you know, before Ella Enchanted there were nine years of rejection.
The worst rejection letter I ever got was for a picture book called Sweet Fanopps, a fantasy about a land that forgot how to sleep and when they rediscovered sleep they had no word for it or for dreaming or any sleep-related terms, hence the title. The rejection letter said that my plot wasn’t interesting, my characters not engaging, and the story lacking emotional charge. The editor doubted that a child would be drawn in enough to sit through a reading. In her last sentence she misspelled the title of my story.
Ouch! I was weeks getting over that one.
But possibly worse were the scores of form rejection letters. They were awful because they were opaque. I had no clue about what the reader didn’t like or what I could do to improve - if he thought my manuscript was the worst junk he’d ever read or if he liked it but just not enough. Years ago my husband found the perfect cartoon. The image is of a sad-looking dinosaur holding a letter. Under the picture are words something like: “Thank you for your submission. Unfortunately it doesn’t meet the needs of our list. Good luck placing the book elsewhere.” As I recall, above the picture it says, "Why the dinosaur perished."
That cartoon was such a comfort! It acknowledged my pain and recognized that rejection was serious - serious enough to cause the extinction of an entire class of creatures!
There were other frustrations around trying to get published. I went to conferences and met editors. If one was interested in seeing my work, I’d send something. Six months later I’d follow up and be told that the manuscript had been lost. Or, based an encouraging response to a manuscript, I’d revise and resend, and then my second submission would be lost or I’d get a form rejection.
But my experience wasn’t all bad. A particular editor kept sending me encouraging rejections and wrote to me out of the blue when she left her job to say that she’d told her successor to watch for my submissions. Another editor asked me to expand my picture book called Dave at Night into a chapter book, which he later rejected. However, I’m still grateful because I owe him the discovery that I’m mostly a novelist.
Still, nine years add up to a lot of discouragement. I’m not sure how much longer I would have kept going. Near the end it dawned on me that if I’d set out to become a brain surgeon I would already have been cutting into gray matter.
From what I hear it’s even harder now. I understand that few publishers accept unagented submissions. You can still meet an editor at a conference and be asked to submit directly, but that’s about it.
Prospects of publication aside, the really really really bad part of rejection is that it can damage your self-confidence. When a manuscript came back it wouldn’t look as pretty and shiny as when I sent it out, full of promise, into the world. I might love it again after a few days or weeks, but my immediate reaction would be, Maybe it’s not worthy.
And yet. The nine years of rejection were among the happiest in my life - because of steps I took, which you can take too, some or all of them. I signed up for classes in writing for children in the Adult Ed departments of colleges in New York City. There may be classes near you in whatever genre interests you, or there will at least be general fiction-writing classes.
So I had the joy of becoming a better writer through practice and expert criticism. There was an added benefit, too: while the negative rejection messages were dripping into one ear, the encouragement of my teachers was pouring into the other.
I joined the Society of Children’s Book Writers and Illustrators (SCBWI). I attended conferences and meetings of my local chapter, which taught me approaches that might lead to publication. With classmates and with the help of SCBWI I joined or formed critique groups. Again, the criticism made me a better writer. Equally wonderful, I became part of a community of struggling writers. We cheered each other on and commiserated over every rejection. I remember riding the train home after a class or a critique-group meeting and feeling so happy.
I heard of a writing group that gave an annual award to the member who’d gotten the highest number of rejections in the previous year. The purpose wasn’t to encourage bad writing. The group had discovered that the writer with the most rejections would eventually be the writer with the most acceptances. She was putting her stories out there. She wasn’t letting the rejections get her down.
Just want to mention, although it’s off topic, that I read almost all the Newbery books in the collection at my local public library. These books gave me a standard of excellence to aim for. And I read book reviews. I kept an ear out, much more than I do now, for what was getting buzz, what was current, what was popular. I encourage you to do the same. Read widely, not just in your genre. If you’re into fantasy, read historical and contemporary fiction. Read literary fiction and mysteries. Read graphic novels. You may find a new niche or you may find approaches that you can adapt to your own uses.
You may not be able to do exactly what I did. You may be too young to join SCBWI (eighteen and up) or you may not live close to a college that offers classes in your genre. But I think you can do some of what I suggest. You can take some sort of writing class. Even if you’re just in elementary school you can whisper to your teacher, as long as he’s a sympathetic sort, that you’d like him to pay special attention to your creative writing. Tell him you’ll welcome as much feedback as he can offer. He may turn a cartwheel for joy. You can ask him to keep your arrangement secret, and you don’t have to tell your friends. You can tell your parents if you like and watch them also turn cartwheels (maybe). You can share your love of writing with your school librarian, if your school has one, and you can ask her if she’d be willing to read your stories and make suggestions. You might form a writing club with your friends if they’re interested. Put out a magazine together. If some of you like to draw, you can illustrate your stories and create cool covers.
If you’re in middle school or high school, it should be easier. You’ll be taking an English or Language Arts class, and your teacher is likely to love writing. He’ll be eager to encourage you. There may be a school newspaper or magazine, or you can start one, staffed by other writing kids.
If you’re an adult, besides writing classes, you can join a writers’ group. The members don’t have to be writing in your genre. After a few meetings you’ll see what they have to offer and whether continuing is worth your time. If not, work on forming your own group. Speak to a librarian at your public library. Put up a notice on its bulletin board. Ask your friends if they know other writers you can contact. It is so useful to be part of a writing community that I think you should go after it even if you are the shyest person on the planet.
I like to think that this blog is kind of a writing community. You may know of others online that help in lots of ways. There may be blogs that are devoted to getting published and others, like this one, that are about the writing process. I got my start in pre-internet days and I’m not knowledgeable, so please post your links.
A single prompt:
In case you’re not familiar with his story, Sisyphus is a character in Greek mythology, not a good guy. This is from Wikipedia: “As a punishment from the gods for his trickery, Sisyphus was made to roll a huge rock up a steep hill, but before he could reach the top of the hill, the rock would always roll back down, forcing him to begin again.” Sisyphus could have been a writer, struggling to finish, to revise, to be published, the task as heavy as a boulder.
This is also from Wikipedia, about interpretations of the myth: “According to the solar theory, Sisyphus is the disk of the sun that rises every day in the east and then sinks into the west... Other scholars regard him as a personification of waves rising and falling, or of the treacherous sea... The 1st-century BC Epicurean philosopher Lucretius interprets the myth of Sisyphus as personifying politicians aspiring for political office who are constantly defeated, with the quest for power, in itself an ‘empty thing’, being likened to rolling the boulder up the hill... Friedrich Welcker suggested that he symbolises the vain struggle of man in the pursuit of knowledge... Albert Camus, in his 1942 essay The Myth of Sisyphus, saw Sisyphus as personifying the absurdity of human life, but Camus concludes ‘one must imagine Sisyphus happy’ as ‘The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart.’” I love Camus’ conclusion.
Invent a character to stand for Sisyphus. Your Sisyphus can be good, and can be any kind of creature. Write one to three pages (or more) at the start of his challenge. Skip to the middle, when he’s at a low ebb and write about that. Then jump to the end and write. The purpose of this prompt is more than just to write; it’s also to address the hardships of writing, so you can use it as you like. When you need your Sisyphus character to win, you can end the story with triumph. When you’re in the mood to wallow in misery, you can defeat him and make him as unhappy as can be. If you’re angry, you can give him success and his enemies defeat in the most dreadful ways you can think of. You can hold onto this exercise and rewrite the ending as many ways as you need.
Have fun and save what you write!
Thank you SO MUCH for this post, Ms. Levine, and I'm so glad you kept at it and didn't give up writing. I love Ella Enchanted.
ReplyDeleteAnd now I'm really excited. I'm going to start editing one of my novels seriously these holidays (I haven't touched it for over six months).
I've also been reading blogs and stuff that really make me aware of how to write, what to watch out for. I'll share the link here, but please note, it's not because it's an Anti-Twilight blog that I'm sharing the link, it's because the author really highlights how word choice affects the story.
http://reasoningwithvampires.tumblr.com/
It really opened my eyes further. I knew that editing is a meticulous process, you have to keep track of every little thing. Now I'm determined to keep track of every little WORD.
:)
And of every little semicolon. Ow. I hope Ms. Meyer finds a new editor soontime, for her sake and everyone else's.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, I had just that problem with commas: I dropped them in between an independent and a dependent clause, as if I expected both to be independent. My teacher spent a while breaking me of that one...my page swam with red ink from all the unneeded commas! So I must admit it's interesting to find that Ms. Meyer has the same problem even though she's a published author who presumably has a professional editor.
Yes! I noticed I had a problem with commas, too. Also, I'm very aware of my word choice now. I just wrote a sentence and then paused, thought about the author of the blog ripping it apart, and carefully reworded it so it better expressed what I wanted to say.
ReplyDelete"If there was a colour to describe how she felt, it would be grey" changed to "If she had to choose a colour to..." because I imagined her circling the first phrase and going, "IF? Grey IS a colour."
So, see, that blog did help! :D
This is such a wonderful post! I'm linking to it on my blog, www.kharristhacker.com. Thank you so much!!!
ReplyDeleteThis was really helpful and encouraging to know that even the best had to start with a ton of rejection. Thanks for putting all the time into these posts!
ReplyDeleteThis was quite, quite ecellent.
ReplyDeleteI'm an "everything happens for a reason" thinking kind of person, but even with my level of optimism I can not deny that rejection hurts. A lot. But, Ms. Levine speaks true: DON'T GIVE UP!
I had a pretty hard rejection earlier this year. (Getting a form rejection letter from an editor who already said they liked your characters and plot and had been emailing you regularly for two months does not feel so great) It took me a couple of weeks to get my self-esteem back up. But when I did, I was compelled to join a writer's group.
Once I did I made a lot of new writer friends, and I started seriously editing my manuscript. I could then see all that was wrong with it and now it is twenty times better than the version I sent to the publisher. Now, this April, I am going to go to a writer's conference and give it another shot. Moral of my story: do not give up! If a publisher rejects you, they're the ones missing out, and they're not the right one for you. Take their advice and move on (unless thier advice is cruddy and basless) there are plenty of publishers in the sea(and just because they reject you once doesn't mean they'll do it again, you can always fix up your manuscript and send it back). :)
Go forth fellow writers and take the world by storm! Show them what you're made of!
Thanks for the post Ms. Levine, it was really, really, inpsiring. I'm going to try to follow your advice and get one of my teachers to read some of my manuscript and give me feedback before the conference in April *fingers crossed*...
Wow! Inspiring post, Mrs. Levine - thank you! I must admit, the more I read about the publishing world, the more daunting it seems. But I'm glad you didn't give up! I really feel that I should be writing, and I don't see myself ever stopping, no matter how many rejection letters I receive.
ReplyDelete@Grace, I'm so sorry about that rejection! But don't give up! Good luck at that conference! :D
@ Silver, thanks :) and amen, you speak true! I don't care if I get enough rejects to wallpaper my room with, I don't think I'll ever stop writing. :)
ReplyDeleteThank you for this post!
ReplyDelete@Silver - I agree, the more I hear about the publishing world, the more daunting it seems. Sometimes I feel like I've got a great manuscript on my hands that will be accepted first try, no problem (optimistic, right?). And other times, I feel like I don't stand a chance. I guess I've just got be be optimistic and go with it, though, and do my best . . . because I'm the kind of person who needs to write, and who won't give up trying to get published, even if it takes a lifetime. So thanks for this post, Ms. Levine - it opened my eyes to what I'm facing, and it will make a rejection easier to face when I start trying to publish. Though I don't see how it could have taken nine years to publish a book as spectacular as Ella Enchanted! :)
ReplyDelete@Grace - Good luck with your publishing! Thanks for what you wrote about publishing, too - it was inspiring!
@Ms. Levine - I loved your title for this post, too. It was awesome! :)
@ Jenna Royal, you wrote a pretty inspiring comment yourself, amen to that!
ReplyDeleteBy the way, to anyone who's checking the blog: Merry Christmas to all wanderers in the world of words!
ReplyDeleteRejection is definitely tough! I admire those who have pushed through it over and over and finally made it. I took a course from the Institute of Children's Literature several years ago. I only submitted 2 of my stories to magazines and received 2 form letter rejections back. I haven't sent out any in a long time. It's a challenge to not be daunted and keep going. I also go back and forth between thinking my work is wonderful and then thinking it's terrible.
ReplyDeleteI actually have a BA in theater and have always wanted to be an actress. Talk about facing a lot of rejection! In high school, I tried out for everything, and finally got in the chorus of the spring show my senior year. Today, I still get turned down far more than I get cast.
I've decided that for 2011, I will focus on being a children's writer as I think I should have been doing all along. Submitting stories is a lot easier than going to auditions! (And I think I'm better at writing than performing!)
This blog is written by a Christian literary agent, but I think her information is relevant even to writers who aren't aiming for the Christian market: http://cba-ramblings.blogspot.com/
ReplyDeleteHowever, her blog is about publishing, not writing, so she's only worth reading if you're at that stage. If you're not actively seeking publication at the moment, don't waste your time.
Another one of that same vein (literary agents giving publishing advice) is Miss Snark. She doesn't update anymore, but her archives are worth the read if you're actively trying to get published. For high school and up though. Sometimes she's not family friendly. http://misssnark.blogspot.com/
@ April, hmmm interesting, I may have to check those out...
ReplyDelete@Grace - Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI have a semi-related question . . . I recently read an interview with an author who said that you shouldn't try to get published as a teen, just keep trying to improve your writing skills and not try to put your writing out there because it isn't worth your trouble and the rejection is too hard on your self-confidence at this point. What are peoples thoughts on this? I for one know that I'm not going to try publishing until I know that I've got something worth putting out there, that I'm really proud of, something that I've put myself into and polished and perfected until it's the best it can be. Even if I feel I have something like this, should I still wait?
Jenna Royal--I think this needs a long answer, so I've added it to my list.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Jenna Royal, love the title of this post!=) To be honest, before coming across this amazing blog, I had little clue about writing and even less guidance. So publishing seemed like a far away dream.
ReplyDeleteHowever, finding out about NaNoWriMo and weekly posts from my favourite author=D has helped me become more ambitious with my writing. I have yet to face rejection, but now, I'd like to think of it as a stepping stone. I suppose its matter of whether you are ready to start over again and keeping going on, like Grace's very inspiring comment.=)
But I think I am forever in your Mrs Levine, for creating such a lovely blog, and all of the commentors here. I will not ever stop trying to get my work published, at least in return for all the advice and tips I've learnt here.=)
Jenna Royal- I think what the author was probably trying to say is that most teen writers aren't ready for publication and that they need to learn their craft more before they can expect any results. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try and get experience in it. I think it just means you shouldn't get your hopes up too high. I think if you have a piece that your positive is as good as you can make it and is something an agent or editor will want, go for it. There are teen authors out there. So basically what I think the author meant was, practice your writing, but don't get your hopes up too high yet.
ReplyDeleteHope that helps!
@ Mya - That's a good way to think of it, as a stepping stone. I like that. Also, I'd have to agree with you, this blog has helped me and my writing a ton! Thank you Ms. Levine, your posts and advice are much appreciated!
ReplyDelete@ Elizabeth - Thanks, that was helpful. I've heard, too, that many editors won't even look at a young writer's manuscript because they don't think it's worth their time. But there are teen authors who've done really well too. I guess I'll just keep working until I've got something worth publishing, and then go for it!
@Jenna Royal
ReplyDeleteGenerally, editors and agents look for good writing first, and then at authors second. It's not being 16 or 61 that will keep you from being published, it's whether you write like a third grader or like JK Rowling. The only time I know of when they'll look at an author and reject them, even if their writing is excellent, is when the author is "insane" (has ridiculously high expectations and demands, is erratic, consistently doesn't meet deadlines, is rude, acts like a diva, etc.).
But since so many teens read this blog, I think it's good that Gail is going to write on that topic. It needs to be addressed. :)
Hi gail, this is maybeawriter's sister, Conily6, and I have a question. I want to be published, and I need a agent, I tried literary Market Place which has a list of agents but none of them were for my age group, how do I find a agent that would help me?
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